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Flight sim hardware – what do customer reviews tell us?

Honeycomb yoke

I’m a numbers guy. I believe a leading reason I enjoy aviation (excluding the beautiful sights, joy of travel, and ability to share these moments with others) is the fact that operating an airplane requires a fluency with numbers. They are everywhere, from the digits we dial into the radios to calculating weight and balance to determining the ever-changing center of rotation. I was fascinated during ground school when we discussed the difference between best fuel economy and best fuel endurance.

With all the praise for flight simulators in today’s market, I decided to focus my appreciation of numbers towards the flight sim hardware we offer at Sporty’s. Through analysis of customer reviews for our flight simulator category, I believe I found a quantifiable way to gauge customers’ satisfaction with the hardware they purchased. Each piece of equipment is graded on the total number of stars they’ve received, number of reviews, average review, and lastly the average amount of stars they receive each month since they debuted.

You’ll notice many hardware options are missing in this analysis, but we wanted to only include items that owned two or more reviews. The Stars per Month metric is slightly skewed to favor newer products, but still an interesting report.

Yokes and Sticks

Yoke reviews

Not much surprise when reviewing the yokes category. For those who are able to get their hands on a Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, they’re usually quick to sing its praise. The average review of the All-in-One Flight Simulator Yoke from CH Products is quite impressive considering no one has jumped online to complain about lack of features or issues, it comes in with a perfect five out of five rating. Notable mentions go to the Logitech Flight Simulator Yoke with throttle and the Logitech Flight Sim Joystick. They’re both averaging consistent stars per month, even while they’re seen as older options. I attribute that to consistent customer happiness and both pieces owning a great reputation for seasoned or new simmers.

Yoke and Stick winners:

Throttles

Throttle reviews

Again the Honeycomb branded throttle leads the pack in Average Review and also Stars per Month—the only problem these days is getting your hands on one. Second place for Average Review goes to the Redbird Alloy Single Throttle in vernier style. This is a $569 piece of equipment and a serious upgrade to flight simulation. To think that customers would rate their experience with that expensive of a piece with a 4.6 out of 5 speaks to the quality of this component. Also worth mentioning: it’s the only Cessna-style push/pull throttle on the market.

Throttle winners:

Pedals

Pedals reviews

The Average Review column for Pedals is slightly skewed due to the newness of the Thrustmaster line, but considering in half a year no one has given them anything less than top rating is something worth mentioning. Our most popular set of pedals are the Logitech Flight Simulator Pedals with over three times as many stars as second place. The fact that it receives over one star a month while celebrating 13 years in the Sporty’s flight simulator department is another indicator of its value.

Pedal Winners:

Accessories

Accessories reviews

Accessories are interesting due to the fact that we’re comparing apples and oranges, but customer reviews should be a grade for expected value, rather than competition between peers. That being said, it seems the Pro Flight Switch Panel is a leader for the Pro Flight line of add-on peripherals. The Flight Velocity Trim Wheel Pro is a very new addition to the flight simulator offering but customers have voted with their wallets, in addition to comments on the product page, that this is a great add-on to a flight simulator.

Accessory Winners:

Kits

Complete kits

Lastly, if you want a one-stop shop option for your flight simulator needs, we offer a few kit options here at Sporty’s. The leading kit from my analysis is the Logitech Flight Simulator Yoke and Pedals bundle. Bringing in almost 5 stars a month since it’s been activated sets it apart from the other kits and is a unique data point considering it’s been alive for three years now. Customers seem quick to review this piece once they’ve flown with it and tested its features, and with competitive price and having pitch, roll, yaw, engine management, and multiple customizable options, it’s not surprising that it averages a 4.44 out of 5 stars. To me it’s impressive that the Redbird Alloy Flight Simulator Complete Kit ($2000) reports the highest average rating from customers. Owners seem to be very satisfied with the saying, “you get what you pay for.”

Kit winners:

It’s worth noting that while combing through all these reviews, there were complaints from customers due to outside factors that don’t necessarily speak to the value of the piece (specifically the Flight Velocity Mid Profile Simulator Cockpit Panel) but with the law of averages we should get an unbiased rating as more and more reviews are submitted. In a day and age where consumers are quick to point out problems or concerns with a retail experience rather than highlighting a victory, we pride ourselves here at Sporty’s that 23 of the 24 pieces reviewed have an average rating of 4 stars or better out of 5. It speaks to our selective product review process and reaffirms our belief that we’re bringing only the best hardware options to our customers.

If you are, or are soon to be one of our customers, please take a few minutes to give us a product review. You’ll help us to keep our product line competitive, while simultaneously providing more data for this left-brain pilot to review.

Honeycomb Bravo – Commercial Two-Engine Configuration (Throttle, Thrust Reversers, Spoilers, Flaps)

In this video Sporty’s own Chris McGonegle will walk us through how to configure the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant for the Commercial Jet Two-Engine Configuration. This video will cover configuring throttle, thrust reversers, spoiler or air brake, flaps, and the TOGA setting with the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 program.

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Honeycomb Bravo – Commercial Four-Engine Configuration (Throttle, Reverse Thrust, Spoilers, Flaps)

In this video Sporty’s own Chris McGonegle will walk us through how to configure the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant for the Commercial Jet Four-Engine Configuration. This video will cover configuring throttle, thrust reversers, spoiler or air brake, flaps, and the TOGA setting with the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 program.

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What flight simulators mean for the next generation of aviators

Did you ever fly out of Meigs field in downtown Chicago before it closed? It’s one of those airports you will never forget if you were lucky enough to visit before the painful closure in 2003. Beyond its reputation as a scenic and convenient access point to downtown Chicago, it was just as memorable to many pilots for a different reason. Ask just about any pilot today who learned to fly in the late 90s or early 2000s and memories will flood back to the view from the departure end of Runway 36 at KCGX, preparing for takeoff in Microsoft Flight Simulator. For many, including me, this was the first introduction to the excitement and freedom of general aviation.

Flight Simulator

After mastering the traffic pattern over Lake Michigan and buzzing the Hancock Building and Sears Tower, it was only natural to switch over to Patty Wagstaff’s Extra 300S and fly the BF Goodrich-sponsored aerobatic airplane for some high performance inverted maneuvers. Most of us had no idea what we were doing, but thanks to an inexpensive yoke or joystick and the family computer in the home office, we learned more about airplane control, flight instruments and aerodynamics than we likely realized at the time.

There’s no question that the countless hours of joyriding around the U.S. in Flight Sim led me to choose a career path in aviation. And I can say for a fact that the experience and knowledge indirectly gained from manipulating the controls of the Cessna 172 and studying the instrument panel trimmed more than a few hours off the time to earn my Private pilot certificate in 2000.

Over the last 10 to 15 years though, it seems like flight simulators lost their magic. While I’m sure the modern versions of these platforms still inspired many to earn their wings, they didn’t offer the same emotional connection as Flight Sim 95 or Flight Sim 2004. The simulators of the past decade are as technically accurate as it gets and allow you to flip every last switch in an Airbus or King Air cockpit, but they felt more mechanical in nature and didn’t have the “it” factor that the original Flight Sim offered.

Change is in the air though, as Microsoft debuted an all-new version of Flight Simulator last year, and it’s hands-down the most capable and inspiring version yet in the product’s 38-year history. If you haven’t seen it yet, check out the demo videos on Microsoft’s website, or one of the hundreds of videos on YouTube, and you’ll be amazed. The unparalleled visuals incorporate over two petabytes of satellite and 3D photogrammetry data to show airports, structures and terrain around the world in detail never seen before.

The new scenery is a big part of why the new Flight Sim delivers the “it” factor aviation enthusiasts crave, providing the lifelike views from the cockpit while flying low and slow. At Sporty’s, we regularly fly to regional airport diners for $100 pancakes at sunrise before the work day begins, and there’s an unwritten rule to stay below 1,000’ AGL during the short hops in an effort to help appreciate the journey and the rolling hills below. The new flight sim will allow future pilots to experience that same feeling from the comfort of their home, flying low and slow over any spot in the world and marvel at the views from above.

Beyond the lifelike scenery and airport detail, the development team spent countless hours creating detailed airplane models, instrument panels and aerodynamics that will surely please pilots of all experience levels. You can fully interact with Air Traffic Control, fly alongside real time traffic with data from FlightAware, and even enable real-time weather data (complete with thunderstorms and in-flight icing) thanks to Microsoft’s partnership with weather forecasting company Meteoblue. It’s clear from the first time you launch on your first flight that this is the real deal, and not the game experience offered by the company’s last simulator release, Microsoft Flight, in 2012.

There’s been some exciting new developments on the hardware front too, and timing couldn’t be better. If you were like me, you started playing Flight Sim 95 with a gaming joystick, and probably upgraded to a basic yoke along the way. Today it’s never been easier or more affordable to outfit your home flight sim right from the start with a full set of controls, including yoke, throttle and rudder pedals.

Honeycomb AlphaOne company leading the way with innovative new hardware is Honeycomb, which launched their first flight sim yoke in 2019. Beyond looking flat out cool, the Honeycomb Alpha yoke provides the best control feel of any on the market, thanks to roller ball-bearing construction and freedom to bank a full 90° (just in case you need to out-maneuver some wake turbulence on final in the C172 at London Heathrow). They also have a new throttle quadrant that is the best all-in-one package I’ve ever seen.

In addition to the standard flight controls, there are more advanced add-ons available like radio stacks, switch panels and even fully functioning Garmin 430W accessories available to make your setup even more capable as a home trainer. These accessories are broadening the appeal of next-generation home simulators beyond aviation enthusiasts and are becoming a popular resource for existing pilots to help keep their flying skills sharp at home.

There will always be those who will be quick to dismiss home simulators because they don’t “feel” the same as the real airplane and view them as just a game. As a flight instructor, I feel the exact opposite and see real value in practicing real-world scenarios with these systems, as long as you approach it with the right mental attitude. Taking small steps like starting each flight from the FBO ramp or tie-down, using checklists and including your EFB app in the process will help get you in the correct mindset.

There are essentially four categories I suggest pilots consider when practicing at home, based on qualifications and flying experience. Here are a few suggestions for scenarios to practice:

  • VFR skill building – high density altitude takeoffs and landings, mountain operations
  • IFR proficiency – LPV approaches to minimums, holding pattern practice, zero/zero takeoff
  • Emergency procedure execution – engine failure after takeoff, electrical failure at night
  • EFB (mobile app) integration – nearest airport diversion, practice using newly released features

The fourth item in the list is something you’ll really want to practice across all the scenarios, since you can connect your iPad to the sim and use it the same way for navigation as if you were in the airplane. This may provide the most value in a simulated environment, allowing you to think outside the checklist to better handle simulated emergencies. For example, you could practice using ForeFlight’s glide advisor during an engine failure, fly an instrument approach solely off the geo-referenced chart if the navigator in your panel went dark, or use it for a backup attitude indicator during a flight instrument failure.

And thanks to the option to fly in real-time weather, you can practice simulated flights in conditions that might normally push your personal minimums to see how the flight plays out as the weather evolves in real life to test your decision making.

Let’s not forget the fun aspect of the new Microsoft Flight Simulator – it’s only fair that you reward yourself with some King Air or Boeing 747 stick time or backcountry flying in Alaska after a few LPV approaches in the 172. In the long run, the new Flight Sim’s fun factor might be its biggest contribution to the aviation community, introducing general aviation to today’s youth (and those young at heart) to inspire them the same way flying out of Meigs Field did for my generation 25 years ago.

Logitech G Flight Simulator Yoke and Throttle – Pilot Report

Logitech G YokeThe Logitech Yoke and Throttle is the most popular yoke option here at Sporty’s, and rightfully so. Since we added it to our flight simulator line in early 2008, it’s been a staple of the digital aviation community due to some unique features, an easily configurable design, and a great price. Below are a few of the reasons we like to recommend it to all levels of flight simulation enthusiasts. 

The first feature that most pilots will notice is the digital timer on the front face of the yoke, which can be configured to display local time, or a count up timer with simple start/stop and reset buttons. The clock is helpful if you’d like a blatant reminder as to how fast time flies by when digitally flying with this yoke, but the timer is also great if you are flying timed holds or a timed approach. A lot of pilots pay for this feature with the Sporty’s Flight Gear Timer and Logitech took advantage of the demand for this helpful feature by incorporating it into their flagship product.

USB hubAnother great feature of the Logitech Yoke and Throttle is that the Throttle quadrant plugs directly into the yoke hub with a 57” cord, which reduces the number of ports required to plug into a PC. The cord length is a helpful feature from Logitech because it allows us ample room to customize the layout of our digital flight deck. Interested in practicing right seat operations and you’d like to switch the yoke to the right hand and engine management to the left? Simply configure the throttle quadrant to the left side of your desk and you’re ready to fly.

A feature that shows Logitech was thinking beyond the initial purchase is the customization of the hardware components involved with the Logitech Yoke and Throttle. In addition to multiple USB-A type ports included in the yoke hub for cord organization, we can easily convert our flight profile from a single engine complex airplane to a multiengine airplane by adding an additional Logitech Flight Simulator Throttle and reconfiguring the levers to dual throttle, propeller, and mixture. The ease with which multiengine controls can be configured means it’s inexpensive to upgrade the realism of your flight simulation while also opening the door to the multi emergency practice of “identify, verify, feather.”

Logitech stackLastly, if you would like to add some of the Logitech-branded peripherals to your yoke (Switch PanelMulti Panel, or Radio Panel), the six screws atop the yoke can be interchanged for each one of the aforementioned panels and their design compatibility allows them to build upon each other, giving options to continuously customize your home build towards your desired preference.

The Logitech Yoke and Throttle has been a foundational piece for the flight simulator department at Sporty’s Pilot Shop. With constant positive customer reviews and the ease of plug and play compatibility with prominent flight simulator software, this yoke and throttle system  is sure to assist in digital flight for all experience levels.

For button mapping out of the box with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, read this post.

 

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